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	<title>Comments on: Did Prahlad Jani survive 70 years without food or drink?</title>
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		<title>By: AnnKizzle</title>
		<link>http://milkmiracle.net/2010/05/14/prahlad-jani/#comment-2311</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let them eat sunlight!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let them eat sunlight!!</p>
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		<title>By: vinod mehrotra</title>
		<link>http://milkmiracle.net/2010/05/14/prahlad-jani/#comment-2118</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a cancer patient.I shall be highly obliged if someone can help me to say the meeting schedule of Mataji Prahlad Jani urgently plsssssssssss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a cancer patient.I shall be highly obliged if someone can help me to say the meeting schedule of Mataji Prahlad Jani urgently plsssssssssss.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://milkmiracle.net/2010/05/14/prahlad-jani/#comment-1896</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there are things you can know, as well as others you can believe in. what would live be without the latter?
besides, i totally agree that whoever claims to play the game the scientific way, should try hard to follow its rules (arguably harder than its been done in this very case).
thanks for your article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are things you can know, as well as others you can believe in. what would live be without the latter?<br />
besides, i totally agree that whoever claims to play the game the scientific way, should try hard to follow its rules (arguably harder than its been done in this very case).<br />
thanks for your article.</p>
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		<title>By: Anirban</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. The burden of proof is always on the person who makes a fantastic claim which flies in the face of all prevailing theories. 

Thanks for reading. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. The burden of proof is always on the person who makes a fantastic claim which flies in the face of all prevailing theories. </p>
<p>Thanks for reading. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rifat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since his claim goes against existing scientific knowledge, the burden of proof will be on those who claims that. Ok ... may be he has evolved(!) .. but to even contemplating something like that we need proof that he indeed could survive without food and liquid. &quot;how&quot; should be the next step not the first one]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since his claim goes against existing scientific knowledge, the burden of proof will be on those who claims that. Ok &#8230; may be he has evolved(!) .. but to even contemplating something like that we need proof that he indeed could survive without food and liquid. &#8220;how&#8221; should be the next step not the first one</p>
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		<title>By: Anirban</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting the update from DRDO, Rajeev.

This makes me even more furious that there was irresponsible reporting on the part of a major news agency which did not understand the press-release or knew and chose to further sensationalize the matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the update from DRDO, Rajeev.</p>
<p>This makes me even more furious that there was irresponsible reporting on the part of a major news agency which did not understand the press-release or knew and chose to further sensationalize the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update from drdo
http://www.drdo.res.in/whatsnew/DIPAS-UPDATE.pdf

some relevant points

1)They are not testing the 70 years claim.A disclaimer was issued before.

2)Bathing and gargling allowed only from 5th day.

3)Sudhir shah is only assisting the defence organization DIPAS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from drdo<br />
<a href="http://www.drdo.res.in/whatsnew/DIPAS-UPDATE.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.drdo.res.in/whatsnew/DIPAS-UPDATE.pdf</a></p>
<p>some relevant points</p>
<p>1)They are not testing the 70 years claim.A disclaimer was issued before.</p>
<p>2)Bathing and gargling allowed only from 5th day.</p>
<p>3)Sudhir shah is only assisting the defence organization DIPAS.</p>
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		<title>By: vishawjyoti</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 18:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Anirban for replying

I knew you will response to my statement that one can live without food, and it is something I imagined, and there is nothing wrong in that, may be what we imagine is not true, but if thought has come then what can be done? Yes foundations can be made on imagination too. sometimes it appears that this whole world is your imagination..and you experience it.. I do not want to appear like a psyche and I am not. But there are somethings which are beyond our understanding! 
Science is the expansion of human understanding and imagination. Theories come and theories fail. When we work on body&#039;s physiology, there is a set of normal range of everything, but sometimes you find cases where normal doesn&#039;t exist and then you discard it as exceptions. All the scientific data what we have today is after statistical removal of extreme values. person to person, species to species is kind of new challenge. Life is not only about DNA and the protein it expresses, it is more than that. I agree that wider approach may make us to linger and loose focus but what if focus in narrow range discards the real aim. 
I am not defending Mr. Jani and I have no intention to do that but I am only thinking ab the other possibilities.  If we have never been on other side we can&#039;t say that side is not there. Yes u r right one can&#039;t stand on one leg, leg is meant to stand only, but what ab wings and fins? even they can be used for moving and can rest too..

thanks again for replying. take care!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anirban for replying</p>
<p>I knew you will response to my statement that one can live without food, and it is something I imagined, and there is nothing wrong in that, may be what we imagine is not true, but if thought has come then what can be done? Yes foundations can be made on imagination too. sometimes it appears that this whole world is your imagination..and you experience it.. I do not want to appear like a psyche and I am not. But there are somethings which are beyond our understanding!<br />
Science is the expansion of human understanding and imagination. Theories come and theories fail. When we work on body&#8217;s physiology, there is a set of normal range of everything, but sometimes you find cases where normal doesn&#8217;t exist and then you discard it as exceptions. All the scientific data what we have today is after statistical removal of extreme values. person to person, species to species is kind of new challenge. Life is not only about DNA and the protein it expresses, it is more than that. I agree that wider approach may make us to linger and loose focus but what if focus in narrow range discards the real aim.<br />
I am not defending Mr. Jani and I have no intention to do that but I am only thinking ab the other possibilities.  If we have never been on other side we can&#8217;t say that side is not there. Yes u r right one can&#8217;t stand on one leg, leg is meant to stand only, but what ab wings and fins? even they can be used for moving and can rest too..</p>
<p>thanks again for replying. take care!</p>
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		<title>By: Anirban</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vishawjoti, thanks for reading. 

The only way to analyze an experiment is rationally. Had the claim for a scientific basis not been made, we might not have needed to discuss it. Having said that, if you read my post carefully, no where do I say we should keep a closed mind. When we close our minds to all ideas we shut ourselves from progress. If we keep the door open to all ideas, we fall prey to the opposite problem. I mentioned that to Jaky as well.

Now there is the matter of probability that we have to take into account. There is nothing unusual about a personal eating normally. You mention extreme caloric reduction which is not normal but still within the probable. Staying hungry is not the same as saying one hasn&#039;t had anything to eat or drink for 70 years. The probability for that assertion is very low (unless proven otherwise).

There is no point talking about photosynthesis or any other scientifically-established living process. Every plausible concept needs at least &lt;em&gt;one &lt;/em&gt;leg to stand on. Here we have none. Only conjecture. And we can&#039;t build a foundation on only imagination, now can we?
;)

Finally, there is the point about weight. I have no reason to think that the scientists either did or did not measure the weight. That would be guessing. What I do know is that it was not reported which is what is known from reading the preliminary report. I can only comment on what is reported and what is known. And ask yourself this, suppose it was taken, why wasn&#039;t it mentioned?

I agree that we only know what has been discovered, but science has progressed quite nicely following a set way to establish and test hypotheses. Of course these methods aren&#039;t perfect, but I would argue they are the best we have.

Thanks again for reading. Take care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vishawjoti, thanks for reading. </p>
<p>The only way to analyze an experiment is rationally. Had the claim for a scientific basis not been made, we might not have needed to discuss it. Having said that, if you read my post carefully, no where do I say we should keep a closed mind. When we close our minds to all ideas we shut ourselves from progress. If we keep the door open to all ideas, we fall prey to the opposite problem. I mentioned that to Jaky as well.</p>
<p>Now there is the matter of probability that we have to take into account. There is nothing unusual about a personal eating normally. You mention extreme caloric reduction which is not normal but still within the probable. Staying hungry is not the same as saying one hasn&#8217;t had anything to eat or drink for 70 years. The probability for that assertion is very low (unless proven otherwise).</p>
<p>There is no point talking about photosynthesis or any other scientifically-established living process. Every plausible concept needs at least <em>one </em>leg to stand on. Here we have none. Only conjecture. And we can&#8217;t build a foundation on only imagination, now can we? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Finally, there is the point about weight. I have no reason to think that the scientists either did or did not measure the weight. That would be guessing. What I do know is that it was not reported which is what is known from reading the preliminary report. I can only comment on what is reported and what is known. And ask yourself this, suppose it was taken, why wasn&#8217;t it mentioned?</p>
<p>I agree that we only know what has been discovered, but science has progressed quite nicely following a set way to establish and test hypotheses. Of course these methods aren&#8217;t perfect, but I would argue they are the best we have.</p>
<p>Thanks again for reading. Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: vishawjyoti</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOu have rationally tried to see the situation, and you may be right that he could use the time of bath for drinking water and urinating without being noticed. But how could you know that in the study weight parameter was not included, they might have done it because it is the initial thing whenever any clinical or pre-clinical study is started, and I don&#039;t think that they would have made mistake. Rest there are some yogic techniques by virtue of which ppl can even stay alive for months and years by almost reducing their diet, and may be point comes they don&#039;t feel like having anything. It could be possible. There are many exceptions and may be he might be cheating or what we don&#039;t know but I think that ppl can stay hungry for longer periods may  be 72yrs as he says.......Rest if we think about the photosynthesizing mechanism activated in human&#039;s Can&#039;t say.. for he almost said  no to invasive techniques to be used. May be not chlorophyll sm other compound might be doing smthing....... My point is that we can&#039;t ignore the fact just on the basis of what we know, when out their lies multitude still to be known... We known only how much has been discovered. In  past times what we have today was regarded as evil  but know is magic of science.... In future what we think today as not possible might be the one of the basic reason for life being as it appears and as it doesn&#039;t appear........ I know I m bit philosophical but true search begins with believing what we don&#039;t know but we wish to know........... and not by disregarding something  as not possible...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOu have rationally tried to see the situation, and you may be right that he could use the time of bath for drinking water and urinating without being noticed. But how could you know that in the study weight parameter was not included, they might have done it because it is the initial thing whenever any clinical or pre-clinical study is started, and I don&#8217;t think that they would have made mistake. Rest there are some yogic techniques by virtue of which ppl can even stay alive for months and years by almost reducing their diet, and may be point comes they don&#8217;t feel like having anything. It could be possible. There are many exceptions and may be he might be cheating or what we don&#8217;t know but I think that ppl can stay hungry for longer periods may  be 72yrs as he says&#8230;&#8230;.Rest if we think about the photosynthesizing mechanism activated in human&#8217;s Can&#8217;t say.. for he almost said  no to invasive techniques to be used. May be not chlorophyll sm other compound might be doing smthing&#8230;&#8230;. My point is that we can&#8217;t ignore the fact just on the basis of what we know, when out their lies multitude still to be known&#8230; We known only how much has been discovered. In  past times what we have today was regarded as evil  but know is magic of science&#8230;. In future what we think today as not possible might be the one of the basic reason for life being as it appears and as it doesn&#8217;t appear&#8230;&#8230;.. I know I m bit philosophical but true search begins with believing what we don&#8217;t know but we wish to know&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. and not by disregarding something  as not possible&#8230;</p>
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